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Who Would You Add to the 'BART Idiot Hall of Fame?'

A Facebook group dedicated to "publicly outing" the rudest BART riders has more than 1,800 members. Share your commuter experiences of rule breaking and impoliteness here.

It's amazing what can happen on a typical BART journey. One minute, you're gazing out the window pondering life — and the next, someone is cussing at the top of their lungs, sneezing in your face and refusing to turnover their seat to a senior.

But now, thanks to social media and the prevalence of smartphone cameras, there is nowhere to hide for the worst BARTiquette rule breakers. The "BART Idiot Hall of Fame" is a Facebook group dedicated to "outing" the most impolite and downright strange BART riders, providing a place for venting, sharing pictures and relaying stories. The group has more than 1,800 members so far.

There are plenty of complaints about seat hoggers, door rushers and bicyclists, as well as a few tales of the weird and wonderful world of a BART ride. Some recent highlights include:

  • A picture of a man relaxing in a hammock that he had hung from the railing
  • A picture of a couple of intoxicated men praying to the BART Gods, post-vomit
  • A picture of a man watching pornography on his video-enabled device during the morning commute

Who would you add to the "BART Idiot Hall of Fame"? Share your stories in the comments below, or add a picture by clicking "upload photos and videos."

Amanda August 10, 2012 at 05:27 pm
Actually, I think it is a positive BART story, because the detail is that he told me that he would see me reading Runner's World Magazine and it inspired him to get back into running. So then, when we saw each other at the race, the influence I had inadvertently had on him while we rode BART had come full circle.
Oh, and I never said the ride to work was miserable. My job was so awful that I looked forward to the ride on BART. At least it's never a dull moment.
McG August 10, 2012 at 08:48 pm
First of all, in case you didn’t know, BART is a Social Program. It helps the less fortunate people get out of their homes and into the world. Which is why you are all talking about these useless human beings. If it wasn’t for BART they would be hanging out doing drugs in their living rooms, not in front of good people trying to make a living. Now with that being said, let me tell you a story.
I was commuting into the city a few years back and I see a open seat at the back of the train, but it turns out there is a old gross ass drunk guy laying down sleeping. I walk away from him and stand near the door. We start to go down the Tran bay Tube when I hear this lady yell “Oh NO, it’s on my new purse”. What had happened is the gross drunk guy woke up and urinated right there from his seat and when the train headed down, his urine made its way down the train. So all these professional type commuters were scrambling and yelling like they were being attacked by sharks. I had to laugh and so did the drunk guy. Good times on BART, especially if you ain’t got anything else to do but be a creepy drunk guy.
Bro Ham August 10, 2012 at 10:35 pm
Awesome story G, thanks for sharing. Pee coming down he train, classic.
Robert Livesay August 10, 2012 at 10:42 pm
Trains, buses, trolleys have always been a great system for local folks to go to work.. Bart is not new. Key Stystem, Greyhound, trains and even ferry boats did the same thing. I never remember anyone doing what some are suggesting. Appreciate and respect BART it is a good system. Also support it if you wish. Stop all your complaining and enjoy the riide. I do believe the stories are funny but they have been going on for over a hundred years. I could tell you some very funny stories.
shirley kirsten August 10, 2012 at 11:04 pm
In general, BART is an improvement over the NYC subways I knew in the 60s...so while I feel the pinch of fast paced-commuters often mowing down those of us who don't move fast enough, I still enjoy the ride.
Robert Livesay August 10, 2012 at 11:43 pm
Shirley I love the NYC Subways. What a way to travel. My first expirence was in 1962. Loved every minute of it. Have been going to NYC ever since. Folks were able to read a newspaper, drink coffee, eat a bagle and still carry on a conversation. They never missed a stop. I loved every minute of it. Grab a pretzel o9 my way baci to the St. Moritz. Not bad.
KFrances August 11, 2012 at 12:08 am
I rode BART while I was pregnant for 9 months. Most people raise their newspaper or book , (now ipad I'm sure) and pretend not to see the pregnant gal. You know women's lib and all that. Just when I had given up hope on humanity all together, (men, women, trains stopped in heat, trains stopped in rain) a young college guy jumped out of and offered me his seat. It had a profound effect on me. It made me realize one person can change the world. It gave me hope - a little thing but a big thing - that son (now 15) knows and he and I will keep passing it on.
KFrances August 11, 2012 at 12:27 am
profound affect on me : )
Redrock August 11, 2012 at 01:40 am
Americans are too uncivilized and uncultured to appreciate a safe and clean public transportation system.
Chris Kapsalis August 11, 2012 at 10:10 am
I don't think it is that so much but more because we have only been around some 235 years while these other countries have been around for much longer. Also a much less ratio of humans to land. Japan for example has a population density of 874 people per square mile, while the US has 81 people per square mile. I think as we approach those of others countries in the future, you will see us having no choice but to use public transportation more. Or running out of fossil fuel, whatever comes first.
CJ August 11, 2012 at 10:50 am
You're blanket statement is difficult to argue with, but I will add a root cause to it.
Most of the Euro and Asian cultures have largely been homogenous (all the same culture and nationality). We have been a melting pot that depends on shared sacrifice to develop a sense of commonality which contributes to a culture and concern for others like them. We now have a political climate and culture of "me" that is driven by politics of victimhood and complete justification of virtually any abhorrent behavior as long as it meets their or some microgroup's idea of freedom. Europe is catching up to us quickly with the mass migration of 3rd world immigrants spreading throughout Europe essentially destroying their peaceful homogenous existence and bringing their culture down to our level. Without a shared sacrifice like major disaster,war, etc. it will continue on this path.
Lafayette Curmudgeon August 11, 2012 at 11:06 am
I was on a packed subway car in Seoul a few years back. Middle of rush hour. Think of a BART car at its we-just-took-the-previous-train-out-of-service most dense. As soon as the train starts moving, from the back end of the train car this older drunk-and-crazy guy starts *screaming* puts his hands in front of him like he's going for a dive and crouches down. And proceeds to *run* from one end of the car to the next, obviously demanding money. Each time he gets to the end of the car he stands up, catches his breath, and starts it all over again. The train is dead silent except that people managed to make a lane for this guy so he could run without bumping into people. He's annoying, not dangerous, and I speak not one word of Korean so I'm perfectly happy to take my cue from the rest of the good folks of the ROK. This goes on for four or five laps of the train when finally this old lady -- eighty-five if she's a day -- stands up and gets in his way. The crazy guy stares at her and for a moment I think there's going to be some trouble. I'm just a few feet away and figure I'm involved in this thing in a few seconds. The crazy guy starts screaming at this lady.
And she starts beating the living hell out of this guy with her purse. His look goes stone-cold sober knowing she's called his bluff. She sits back down. And he walks into the next car and the path that the passengers had made vanishes. And from the next car? Screaming. All over again.
Chris Kapsalis August 11, 2012 at 11:38 am
It is harder for the average person to own a car in some of these other countries, gas is much more expensive and the percent of adults who have a drivers license is lower than the US. If Gas was $8 a gallon here, even without an efficient network of public transportation in place, I bet you would see much more use of it. I don't really see how culture or race plays into it nearly as much as economy and need. We do have a culture where the automobile is huge. From dating rituals, right of passage, freedom, the pride people have for their cars, history and the very way most of our cities are planned, the automobile is too most Americans and indispensable part of how they want to live.
Mary August 11, 2012 at 12:49 pm
Sometimes it's necessary - babies are not capable of conforming to BART schedules.
Annie R. August 11, 2012 at 04:10 pm
Dee, you are a breath of fresh air. Thank you!
Dee August 11, 2012 at 08:45 pm
CJ says:" Europe is catching up to us quickly with the mass migration of 3rd world immigrants spreading throughout Europe essentially destroying their peaceful homogenous existence and bringing their culture down to our level."
Scapegoating and blaming immigrants/minorities has been a cruel and ignorant position to take in the past, it has caused more suffering and problems for mankind and obviously isn't a solution to improve the ills of our society; it actually contributes to and may be a cause (e.g. concentration camps, McCarthy era, Jim Crow laws/slavery, Irish & Chinese in 1800's Native Americans, Salem witch trials, etc, etc). So howzabout we put our brain power in a different direction instead of beating a very old and diseased horse in this unconscious need for displacement and blame.. "Scapegoating occurs when one group of people in a society are experiencing problems that prompt them to place blame on another group of people." Edmund Burke (1729-1797) statement, "Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it." Burke was a British Statesman and Philosopher who is generally viewed as the philosophical founder of modern political conservatism. I learned this in high school: from Arthur Miller's "The Crucible:": "What lay behind the procedures of both witch trial and political hearing was a familiar American need to assert a recoverable innocence even if the only guarantee of such innocence lay in the displacement of guilt onto others."
CJ August 11, 2012 at 09:17 pm
I'm sure Dee has all the prerequisite PC credentials. Prius with a COEXIST sticker and probably 2012-Obama decal. I may be wrong , but my keen sense of humanity tells me I'm right.
Speak to most any reasonable resident of France,England, Netherlands,Germany,Greece,Spain. They will universally tell you diversity is way overrated. They liked it better when they were much more homogenous. We are great and horrible due to the same and have been for 200+ years. We are the disfunctional family of the world. Somehow a balance will need to be struck. You can't force people to accept what they know makes them miserable. It's not bigotry, it's self preservation/survival.
Annie R. August 11, 2012 at 11:59 pm
CJ, Sorry to burst your bubble, but it is apparent you suffer from xenophobia, rather than possess a "keen sense of humanity."
CJ August 12, 2012 at 12:02 am
Call it whatever you want. Doesn't bother me. I don't live in Utopian PC Land, I prefer Realville.
Chris Kapsalis August 12, 2012 at 12:10 am
"France,England, Netherlands,Germany,Greece,Spain." It is Kind of strange then that so many from those countries imagrated here and to other lands during the time when they were much more homogenous?
John Stashik August 12, 2012 at 02:07 am
Some prefer convenience and flexibility. Simple.
Dee August 12, 2012 at 05:15 am
CJ, I read your "keen sense of humanity" as a fallacy in logics and lack of civility. Logics fallacy called "Change the Subject" by discussing the person making the argument instead of focusing on the concepts.. Also, because you have absolutely no knowledge of my personal facts and habits: "Straw Man Fallacy: imagine setting up a man of straw, attacking it, then proclaiming victory. All the while, the real opponent stands by untouched". And, "Mind projection fallacy – when one considers the way he sees the world as the way the world really is." I think this last one is such an easy misstep for all of us to take.
Thank you CJ for my own reality check and I mean that sincerely. We're all in this together.
CJ August 12, 2012 at 10:38 am
Dee- Now you're just making stuff up. If someone challenges your argument with a statement either counter with a reasonable argument to specific statements or let it lie. You still haven't addressed my original point that nice and homogeneous Western Europe's culture is being greatly disturbed by mass migration from 3rd world countries. This is a net negative and is leading to their financial and social breakdown. Making it similar to us rather than the stark difference to our culture it once was some 20 years ago.
Chris Kapsalis August 12, 2012 at 10:41 am
That is very similar to Hitler's argument CJ.
Chris Kapsalis August 12, 2012 at 10:50 am
Countries obviously have to have some control on the numbers of people immigrating into their country. But the newest arrivals are always to blame, when you look back everyone at one time or another Was the new arrival and probably blamed. How can a people or country blame the newest people when it is them who is in charge of who comes and how many come? Assuming they are legal. Like in America, we have used new people to build railroads and pick our food, do our dirty work, then blame them for our woes. I don't get it.
But back to BART, I think it scares some people because it is a mixing place of different kinds of people and people are afraid of the unfamiliar. Maybe they feel safer in their isolated suburban setting of more one kind of people. When if you look at history, it is one kind of people cut off from other cultures that builds paranoia and misinformation and mistrust of others not like them. Even can lead to genocide and war. Same kind of people is boring as hell imo.
Mary Rose August 12, 2012 at 01:03 pm
Why Not A Good Samaritan Hall of Fame? Why nurture a culture of negativity? - we have a great deal to be grateful for.
Mary Rose August 12, 2012 at 01:10 pm
Idiot? Definition of Idiot: one hopelessly deficient, esp. from birth, in the ordinary mental powers. Don't you think compassion is in order not harsh judgement? But for the grace of god/goddess it can be you someday!
Lend a hand, open you heart. How low does Berkeley Patch have to go with these unmindful - juvenile in nature tropes?
Chris Kapsalis August 12, 2012 at 02:00 pm
Maybe there is a Patch idiot hall of fame fb page to talk about this?
Jeffrey Boore August 13, 2012 at 01:52 pm
I think that there is merit to CJ's view that lack of homogeneity in society is at the root of many of these kinds of problems. But it is not the inherent shortcomings of immigrants that are the problem so much as the xenophobia of more long-term residents. That contempt and prejudice pushes more recent immigrants to the margins of society where social and economic opportunities are lacking, and they tend to respond as any of us would under those circumstances by certain anti-social behaviors.
Many people simply cannot identify with the plight of people who look or talk or act differently from what they are used to and cannot bring themselves to care about their challenges. It is that neglect that creates so many of our social problems.
Mary Rose August 13, 2012 at 02:41 pm
We are all immigrants to this land! and we took most of it by force!

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